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Subject :I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-08 15:34:28

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Hello, group I'm happy to join this group but I'm a little confused you see I watched the Money Masters Video before it happend

2 years later. I understand everything about it. however I was doing research and David Rockfeller is a great man. who gets a bad wrap.

his against the federal reserve and is not a major share holder from what I found.

I understand that everyone else is to blame I do but David is on are side.

and no time have I read him being against anything we stand for.

Did I miss something? I realize the Rockfellers are Very Very powerful family and yes they are one of 4 familys that have old money.

but the rockfellers do a lot good. and I can't see them being in that federal reserve enemy side.

he uses his family power for business people to help Businesses.

his a great man who can't help being who he is.

The other rockfellers maybe enemys I don't know. but I know David and his a great man.

Thank you.

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-08 15:36:00

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I wrote this quick sorry for the miss spelled words.

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-08 18:41:56

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Hello,

I literally just joined this forum. I do not have an extensive knowledge of the Rockefeller family, but I would imagine the following should help to cast some light on the question of Rockefeller involvement in subverting our Constitutional Republic.

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller, 1991 Trilateral Commission meeting

In David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" he admits that he is part of a secret cabal working to destroy the United States and create a new world order. Here is the direct quote from his book pg. 405

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-08 19:47:28

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I do think the film Money Masters is a very good film, but in terms of what we face as a nation today I believe it fails to properly explain what the Federal Reserve Bank system really is.

There is a lot of talk about the coming "new world order", and even the elites themselves speak of it as such. When you hear new world order what it really is, is the old world order of Europe. The American system is the real new world order. Now the elites like to fancy themselves as being some sort of intellectual pioneers by calling it new, but make no mistake about it it's the same old European monetary system.

To better understand the new world order let's identify it as the British Monetary Empire, because that's really what it is. An empire in terms of the British Empire that we fought to win our independence from, is not an empire of British states, but an international monetary system which controls the issuance of currency of nations, which effectively then holds authority over those nations. In the United States we have the Federal Reserve Bank, which is merely a branch of the British Monetary Empire that controls our country by controlling money. What the Federal Reserve Bank, and British Agents did, was to turn our Constitutional Republic into a corporation, or as we call it a Democracy. This occured as a result of the American Civil War, which was the work of the British Empire. Lincoln understood at that time that the British Empire sought to destroy our American system, because it posed a threat to their system of monetary control. The American system, as explained in Money Masters, is based on a Hamiltonian credit system, which means that rather than a private corporation, or monetary interests, authoring our money, the people themselves would author credit by a vote of Congress and the President. The British Empire were the ones who brought about the slave plantation systems of the Southern States, which was part of an economic system used to filch wealth into the monetary system, which controlled Europe. Lincoln understood this, and understood that the British were bent upon destroying our system of government, and already at that time had begun the process of obtaining control over our economic system. This is why Lincoln issued the "green-backs", which were based on the Hamiltonian Credit System. Lincoln's move to free the slaves was not because he was interested so much in equality, but he understood that by doing so it would be a powerful blow to the British slave system of the Souther States.

The British Monetary Empire is what controls most of the world today. Like I said earlier, it does this by controlling the issuance of currency of nations. No nation can exorcise sovereignty as long as foreign interests control their money supply. America's assignment, our destiny as a nation, was to spread the Hamiltonian credit system globally. What that means, is a world of sovereign republics all of which author their own credit. Now if you had a major project, and it was going to require international cooperation, then what you could do in this type of credit system is to have various nations through agreements author credit in concert to fund the goals of that project. In the American system authority resides with the respective people of each republic, or nation. In the old world British monetary system, you have private banks which are absorbed into a world monetary authority. The British system gives total control over all nations into private hands, who at their leisure can turn off the money facets at their discretion.

The old world system of imperialism is more than just the international monetary system. It is an entire view of the human race as merely a form of cattle. That man kind should not be well educated, and should not live beyond their means. It keeps the human family in a state of arrested development, because the sole purpose of the empire is to use the cheap slave labour to filch wealth and power into the system. You cannot have liberty of any kind under this sort of system. This system is what our founding fathers fought to break free from.

The new world order, the real one, the American system was that mankind should be elevated in higher education, that the culture of a nation should be developed, with living conditions improved, and scientific achievement a priority. The fundamental reason behind this out look of man kind, is that rather than the imperial system of natural resources and slave labour being the prime source of wealth, that the creative potential of the human mind itself is the real wealth of the nation state. The more educated, the more advanced the culture is, the more potential for creative discovery.

What we are fighting against today is the British monetary empire. I'm not talking about the British people, of course. London is just a seat of power for this monetary system. The world monetary fund, the world wildlife fund, these are mechanisms of the monetary empire.

Now it is true that under the banking system we have controlling the U.S today, the bankers can literally make the economy prosper or collapse, if they choose. The banks have done this before, and I suppose most people are aware of this. The economic crisis we see occuring today is not a false collapse, this is the real deal. If you have more currency in circulation than you have actual wealth in the physical economy, then you have inflation. Currently, the real physical economy is in such a poor state, that if you contracted the money supply to match the physical wealth, the overwhelming majority of the public wouldn't have a dime to their name, and the states would be virtually bankrupt, as we see they are now even with hyper-inflation. The money that has been pumped into the system has merely masked the reality that the real physical economy cannot sustain the present population, and certainly couldn't pay the enormous debt. The elites knew when they developed the Federal Reserve this crisis would come, which is in-line with the genocide policy of the British Monetary Empire, as expressed by Prince Phillip himself. Their agenda is to depopulate the planet by at least 80%. The current economic crisis is a means to an end. The monetary system that their empire is based upon cannot truly sustain the population of the world. The elites do not want to lose their empire, so they have no problem with depopulation what so ever, and in fact, favour it.

The American credit system can reverse the situation. But before that can happen we must break the power of the monetary system over our nation. We can do this by breaking up the Federal Reserve putting it through bankruptcy, and converting it into a Hamiltonian credit system. Then we could begin to rebuild our physical economy, the culture, and education. This system could easily be exported to major powers of the world, once they see the U.S is serious. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to assume China, Russia, and various other nations would prefer issuing their own currency, rather than being victims of global genocide. Everything you see coming out of the Obama Administration, and many members of Congress & Senate, is to help the British Empire push their green agenda, which is just a flowery way of selling genocide. Kinda like abortion!

We are the only nation who can stand up to the British Monetary Empire. Now we just have to work to kick the British Agents out of our nation.

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-08 21:22:10

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huck me a coule ouce of gold an your forgven lol

i know a guy who dosn nothing but trade gold all day

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-09 06:01:51

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JPTG - Google David Rockefeller and the Bilderberg group. Without sounding too "alarmist", you have to wonder exactly what this group's agenda is and why they are so secretive.

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Subject :Re:Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-09 09:58:50

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waoh man don't go conspiracy nut on us

[FlaPatriot 2009-07-09 05:01:51]:

JPTG - Google David Rockefeller and the Bilderberg group. Without sounding too "alarmist", you have to wonder exactly what this group's agenda is and why they are so secretive.

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Subject :Thanks Guys.. 2009-07-09 10:05:54

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Thanks Guys I understand everything that was said I do.

I fully understand about the fedreal reserve system.

but as for David I've read several places that his fighting the enemy from with in.

His puts up that act to stay face with the rest of the NWO.

I can't stay the same for his brothers I don't know but David is on are side he wants to destroy the NWO but from the inside.

if you ever get a chance to met him his a very nice man his book and that quote it's just feeding the NWO members what they want to hear.

David is a Pro Capitalist I believe his a mermber in secret of the Freecapitalist project {which I'm also a member}.

I believe from the things I've read his not like the rest of the NWO.

And because of who he is and how powerful he is he can't speak up to defend himself.

so his stuck he has to put on this act in till the NWO and the FEd are both finished.

when that day comes I hope he can clear his name.

again I can't speak for every member of the RF family but I know David is good.

Thanks again

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Subject :Re:Thanks Guys.. 2009-07-09 12:55:22

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Sounds like wishful thinking to me...

[JPTG 2009-07-09 09:05:54]:

Thanks Guys I understand everything that was said I do.

I fully understand about the fedreal reserve system.

but as for David I've read several places that his fighting the enemy from with in.

His puts up that act to stay face with the rest of the NWO.

I can't stay the same for his brothers I don't know but David is on are side he wants to destroy the NWO but from the inside.

if you ever get a chance to met him his a very nice man his book and that quote it's just feeding the NWO members what they want to hear.

David is a Pro Capitalist I believe his a mermber in secret of the Freecapitalist project {which I'm also a member}.

I believe from the things I've read his not like the rest of the NWO.

And because of who he is and how powerful he is he can't speak up to defend himself.

so his stuck he has to put on this act in till the NWO and the FEd are both finished.

when that day comes I hope he can clear his name.

again I can't speak for every member of the RF family but I know David is good.

Thanks again

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-10 07:07:17

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tell me about it

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Subject :Time will tell... 2009-07-13 15:06:39

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LOL Yes I know how it sounds.

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-13 17:19:08

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Do tel us wahy your hero david rockefeller is doing to beat back fractional reserve lending the centeral banks the BIS an the IMF an the rest of global ttransnatinalisn amd global government>

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Subject :Well..... 2009-07-13 19:53:16

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I can't say but he is. but believe what you want it's your right.

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Subject :Re:I New but I know the story about the Money Masters... 2009-07-13 20:31:21

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Look here what i don't get. and i operate on a need to know basis

if we don't have a need to know then why tell us David rockefelle is a good guy?

I mean that like an Obama zombie teling us the "anointed one" will save the economy but they don't know how or why.

It is like a politician promising a new program but not providing the details on how to pay for it or what it will cost you.

so You can't blame me for for being skeptical your opinion.

there needs to be som facts to credit her
otherwise it 's considered hearsay.

which is about as credible as a conspiracy theory

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Subject :Your right... 2009-07-14 10:02:41

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Your totally right it maybe hearsay

I don't know

but the source I read it from which I won't give to protect my sources.

give great info and brokedown the years of his life as a banker.

and how because of who he is and how powerful his family is they like to put him in the middle of this NWO.

and while he say's some NWO quote in his book that's called staying face to you don't get killed or die in a special way.

The one thing we all know if you say anything in public or to anyone who can spread it about the NWO. you die pure and simple.

now DR is a very rich man no doubt but the NWO control everything even him his like wimped puppy dog.

he can't say what he really means. he wants to but maybe feels it's to late and wants to injoy the last 10 years or so of his life.

you have to be in DR shoes to really figure out what go's on in his head.

but Silence is golden and DR can't rock the boat at least not by himself.

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Subject :Re:Your right... 2009-07-14 16:34:19

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silence eh? or is i apethy? how do you think he plans to fight the good fight? take down the curent ADMIn ot stop hi fellow kin in the senat Jay rockefeler? throw NBC an GE into a finacial tailspin?

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